Sarah Nyhan

I wrote: Hi, I just found this. It is the best explanation I have heard so far. Especially the part about the priest offering the sacrifice. Interested in your opinion if you desire to listen to it.
https://youtu.be/to4axvow9YM

He wrote: Sarah, I know you have been sending this to others. Please stop. You are free to choose this heresy but you are not free to contaminate others with it. You are loved and being prayed for. What you have found is false and you know it is. It was good to see you yesterday. I pray you will make the right choices.

I wrote: With all due respect, I am free to send whatever I like to whoever I like. My relationships are with individuals. Each person is free to make their own decisions and respond accordingly to me. Obviously from your response, I respect your personal decision and will not send you anything more.

However, I do not know which part of what I sent you consider heresy. My issue with you in regards to this has always been that you generalize your responses to me and dismiss me. I am only sending because the more I seek the more I find. I was always hopeful that you would respect me enough to have a real discussion in regards to exactly which points are so-called heresy.

I can’t help but think that if I was a Chuck Smith, you would take my concerns more seriously. That you would take the time to actually specifically let me know which points you disagree with and why. I thought that was part of a pastor’s job? I am not playing games with you. I came to [church] yesterday because I miss you all very much. I left only because I believe so strongly about what I am learning.

I know you love God. That is not in question.

He wrote: Sarah, universalism is heresy. And you should be frightened about spreading it. The number of warnings about it are many and scary.

I am a pastor who wants to protect the people who think of me as their pastor. That is my only goal. I don’t care about silencing you but, if I have to, I will warn the people you are sending this junk to and then you can deal with them.

I am not (and never have) dismissed you. It doesn’t matter if you were Chuck Smith or not; I dismiss heresy and other forms of false doctrine.

I have tried to encourage you to stay on the path of truth as revealed in our Bibles. This guy you are listening to is a nut job, Sarah. And there are many like him. My heart hurts because you are so easily fooled.

Good doctrine never changes and we Christians (to use the term you used) don’t get to have our own journey. We are obligated to follow Jesus on His journey. Period.

If this guy is right, there is no God at all. No justice. No holiness. No sacrifice for sins. It means everyone ever is lost for ever or we just die and cease to exist.

I will not comment any further on this.

You are and will always be a big part of my life. But heretical doctrine is not welcome here.

I wrote: I don’t think he ever once said the word universalism in that video. Categorizing this as universalism is a convenient easy way out in my opinion. It is the actual theological points being made that are of concern to me.

I could care less about labels. Just like being a Christian means different things to different people. Or even being associated with [church] means different things to different people.

I could care less about this guy in the sense that I am not promoting him at all. I am not supporting him at all. It is his words that I am interested in. I am sure he is as flawed and imperfect as you and I.

I am waiting for the person who will actually discuss this point by point with me. As in, actually listen to it, actually read what I send, and quote a specific point made and then tell me exactly what the objection is and why.

If that’s not your calling, I respect that. That doesn’t mean you are wrong or right. My disappointment does not equate to you being at fault. But I am disappointed. I’ve learned that just because I am passionate about something, that doesn’t mean God calls me to make that passion everyone else’s mission. So I will keep looking for whoever feels called to give it a more thorough examination with me.

I know you want to protect God’s people. I just don’t think you are honestly taking the time to look at each of the theological points being presented. And that feels dismissive to me. If someone you were trying to impress asked you to do that, I think you would do it. Maybe not. But I feel dismissed in that way. But I am going to settle for thinking that just means I guess this is my burden to bear for now. And I will be praying also.

The answers I am finding are in the Bible. I regret not being able to communicate them on my own as clearly as I’d like. But I’m not finished. Still seeking. Still learning.

And I’m not invested in any outcome other than the truth. I have no agenda or allegiances other than to God.

What I’ve been learning has answered questions I’ve had for years. Making portions of the Bible make sense for the first time.

Are there a lot of questions – sure. But that doesn’t mean what I am learning is wrong. It means I am starting over and looking at everything through a different lens and seeing what holds water and what doesn’t.

You say “if this guy is right” – about what specifically? He said a lot of things. Surely you don’t disagree with every single point. If you even listened to it.

I’m pushing the point not to be combative. But just to challenge the logic. That’s not intellectually honest to say everything he says is incorrect. Again, my challenge for whoever will accept it, is talk to me about specific statements.

I thank you for your prayers. I miss you all terribly. I am extremely grieved by not being present with you all. That is what drew me yesterday. And has been heavy on my heart for months.

I trust God knows and trust He loves us all and will sort everything out. After our time on this earth for sure, but hopefully before.

God bless.